it seems to me president obama's biggest priority should not be the deficit. it should be restoring shared economic growth. yes, we need to do something about the long term deficit. i think the big argument is going to be between people who want to argue that the whole deal is deficit reduction. let's spend all our time putting on our green eye shades and talking these numbers. ezra will be excellent in describing what the numbers need. in fact, we could get a deficit on a decent course for a few years with about 1.5 trillion deficit reduction then move on to other issues. you are going to talk about it later, obviously guns and immigration. can we restore shared growth? >> yeah. >> people at the bottom go up as well as people at the top. that was the core promise for the obama campaign. >> this is not a small thing. there is no guarantee. if we bring down the deficit, there's no guarantee the next president will be a democrat or to the left of center. we may want a deficit reduction to open up the funds to do. they may not get done. it's the story of the seco